Are inline 6 engines inherently smoother than 60 degree V6s?

"DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time" (dc3ls-) 04/07/2018 at 18:23 • Filed to: None

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Or is it just perception since companies who make straight sixes, like BMW, probably make better engines than companies like GM who make more V6s.

Because I’ve decided my dream/next DD will have either an inline six or V8, bench seats, column shifted automatic, and either be a liftback or have a ginormous trunk.

For Sweden > DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time 04/07/2018 at 18:27

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Yes.

Spanfeller is a twat > DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time 04/07/2018 at 18:29

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I thought that i6 were inherintly balanced and v6 needed balancing shafts. But

Spanfeller is a twat > For Sweden 04/07/2018 at 18:30

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Are you really Patrick George?

DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time > Spanfeller is a twat 04/07/2018 at 18:30

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60 degree V6s don’t, but 90 degree V6s do IIRC.

unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins) > For Sweden 04/07/2018 at 18:31

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CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time 04/07/2018 at 18:32

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next DD will have either an inline six or V8, bench seats, column shifted automatic, and either be a liftback or have a ginormous trunk.

You’re welcome! 225 slant 6!

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time 04/07/2018 at 18:34

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Yes.

No, it is not just perception.

wafflesnfalafel > DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time 04/07/2018 at 18:34

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GM made inline 5s and 6s for a while in the Trailblazer, Colorado, Hummer H3, etc. I’ll bet one of those had a bench seat option.

Spanfeller is a twat > DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time 04/07/2018 at 18:35

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Are the primary and secondary forces balanced ina 60°?

I ask... I honestly don’t know...

SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media > DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time 04/07/2018 at 18:35

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Yes. But also yes... because we are human after all.

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time 04/07/2018 at 18:35

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https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-pros-and-cons-of-V6-and-inline-6-engines

A I6 is better balanced, but can’t easily be used in a FWD configuration. While this isn’t a problem for BMW it does become an issue for a mainstream manufacturer to justifly a model specific engine.

ranwhenparked > DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time 04/07/2018 at 18:36

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Wait, wait, you want a V8, column shifter, bench seats, and a huge trunk? We should talk.

For Sweden > Spanfeller is a twat 04/07/2018 at 18:40

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Yes

dogisbadob > wafflesnfalafel 04/07/2018 at 18:40

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Too bad the I6 never made it to the Colorado and Camaro

For Sweden > gmporschenut also a fan of hondas 04/07/2018 at 18:43

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bUt CaN’t EaSiLy Be UsEd In a fWd CoNfIgUrAtIoN

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time 04/07/2018 at 18:44

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V6s are basically two I3s sharing a crank. Odd-cylinder count engines are rough because there is always a more cylinders moving in one direction than in the opposite. They need balance shafts and counterweights to run smoothly.

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > For Sweden 04/07/2018 at 18:46

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Don’t forget the Suzuki Verona!

Spanfeller is a twat > For Sweden 04/07/2018 at 18:55

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How can you prove it?

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > For Sweden 04/07/2018 at 18:58

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https://jalopnik.com/heres-the-differences-between-a-v6-and-straight-six-eng-1791734882

“Packaging is a big issue with the straight-six, though. It’s just kind of hard to fit in cars, can throw off the center of gravity, is nearly impossible for front-wheel-drive setups, and loses some rigidity over other engine options due to being a little stretched out and skinny.

V6 engines litter the lot of current supercars, including the Nissan GT-R and new Acura NSX. It’s more compact, making it easier to snuggle in some turbocharging, works better for front-wheel-drive applications, and makes it easier to fill a vehicle lineup with the same basic engine layout. Copy/Paste.”

Never said impossible

Cé hé sin > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent 04/07/2018 at 19:02

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Or this.

For Sweden > Spanfeller is a twat 04/07/2018 at 19:07

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I don’t need to prove it.

McMike > DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time 04/07/2018 at 19:14

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OMG yes. Out of the box, the i6 is inherently balanced, and one of the three perfect engines. See also: V12 and a boxer 6

The V6 is a compromise for mostly packaging and fitment. Compared to the three mentioned above, the V6 is a hot mess.

https://www.caranddriver.com/features/the-physics-of-engine-cylinder-bank-angles-feature

My bird IS the word > DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time 04/07/2018 at 19:35

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I would guess that they are. The direction of motion and weight are the same with inline, which would mean that they perfectly cancel out, vs going in different directions.

ranwhenparked > dogisbadob 04/07/2018 at 19:35

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If you go back further, an I6 was the standard engine in the Camaro through 1979.

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time 04/07/2018 at 20:11

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My 240Z is smooth, my truck is an I6 but it’s a flathead from the 50's so I’m not sure it will help the argument.

dogisbadob > ranwhenparked 04/07/2018 at 20:19

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yup! And that’s just another reason they should’ve used the Atlas in the new Camaro :o)

I liked the idea of a nice modern American DOHC I6

If the new Camaro had the Atlas and T-tops it would almost be awesome enough to look past not being able to see out of it.

coqui70 > DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time 04/07/2018 at 20:44

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Inline-6 engines are smoother because the piston movements are naturally balanced in typical designs. In a 60-degree design there are ways to arrange the firing order but it’s never as smooth as an inline-6.

A 90-degree V6 has too many perpendicular-action forces at play to be smooth without a good counter-balance design. Inline-4s have issues due to having too few cylinders, and inline 3s or 5s are just weird. V8s can be fairly smooth - and v12s can be buttery-smooth. Nothing beats an electric though - but they don’t make real vroom-vroom noises.

DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time > Spanfeller is a twat 04/07/2018 at 23:10

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Idk, might just be primary.

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time 04/07/2018 at 23:13

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So you want a Crown Vic?

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > dogisbadob 04/08/2018 at 00:33

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“look past not being able to see”



Rock Bottom > For Sweden 04/08/2018 at 03:16

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HoldMyBeer@HondaCBX.com

DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 04/08/2018 at 11:29

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I’d take one. Although preferably a Town Car or Grand Marquis, because I’m a man of class.  

dsigned001 - O.R.C. hunter > DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time 04/08/2018 at 17:01

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In theory, yes, straight sixes are more balanced. In practice the balance shafts and tolerances have gotten good enough lately that a modern v6 is going to be better balanced than a straight six of yore.

Saracen > DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time 04/26/2018 at 13:07

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I-6's and V12's are the only engine configurations that inherently have perfect balance. V6's pretty much always require at least one balance shaft to reduce NVH.